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Old 09-04-2015, 02:26 AM
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So I just got somewhat finished with a new piece of music. I say somewhat because its needs tightening up and rewritten back into Notation. It has taken me 3 months up to now to get to this point. I just want to know what you guys think, and if you have any ideas on how to tighten it up, and put it back into notation. The rhythm is a little off on one of the instruments.: https://soundcloud.com/james-rimmer-3/mix-doechown

I can give more explanation in detail if you need.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:04 PM
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Hi, lavajunkie:

I really couldn't hear anything that was so far off to be noticeable. Do you have a Notation format file you can post? Seeing the Notation format file might give us a better idea of what you're thinking about.

David
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:52 PM
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Here you go... It took forever today to get it down to notation; and even then it's not complete. I'm sending you two files. One is a raw recording for just the echoed parts down to notation; the other is the whole song as it should be, minus the echo effect. Just as a reminder; in the second set of music the first two staffs are echoed and the last staff has some convolution thing going on that NC can't do anyway (I use Cool Edit for that). Also, disregard all instruments used; they are not the correct ones. I chose these because NC cannot reproduce the originals on it's own. My Yamaha DGX-505 has this button called Harmony that makes your notes do stuff. In this case it makes them echo; giving them a 1/6 echo (choices for echos are: 1/4; 1/6; 1/8; 1/12; 1/16; 1/24; 1/32) I can't seem to get the echo/play timing right when I play it by hand for the whole duration of the song, and the recorded sheet music is far to complex for me to even comprehend, with all the re-transcribing and note velocity I'll have to do. If you look at the raw file, it looks horrible. The timing is all off. If I can get the timing written correctly; I'll have NC play it back through my piano, as written, while selecting the right instrument; then record it back to my computer as a .wav file for Cool Edit/editing later.
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Old 09-05-2015, 03:21 AM
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Cool! Sounds like a sound track in search of an action film. Thanks for sharing.

Ralph Rayner
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Old 09-05-2015, 12:36 PM
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Hi, lavajunkie:

Look at the attachments here.

I looked at your "The Whole Song" and, based on the glock part that starts off the piece, it seems to me that you've got a repeating set of irregular metred bars in it.

Nothing wrong with that -- it adds spice.

I went through and changed some bar lines to line up with what I see happening in your ostinato part. See The Whole Song re-barred.not, attached.

Then I think I found where you feel the timing is going off.

At bar 17, you end bar 16 on the low note (E5) of the pattern, but begin bar 17 with the same note, essentially re-setting the pattern to begin with the low note. Then the following parts all follow that example and begin with the low note.

After the first 17 bars set the pattern of alternating high then low notes, the ear hears an off-beat when the pattern changes to alternate low to high.

See the attached jpeg "The Whole Song re-barred -- look at glock in bar 17".

Is that what you were hearing?

David
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Old 09-05-2015, 02:48 PM
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Tks David... Now about your post. Essentially the first 16 bars are the first 16 bars of staff 6 in the main piece after that, in reverse. I just took those as performed; added the convolution, reversal, and amplify; then put it back in. I am sending a picture for the Cool Edit Session I edited for picture purposes. (I made it look like the .not file to some degree for easy reading and stuff.)
Now here are the individual tracks as needed, to talk about them:

1: This track is as noted up top. Just taking the first 16 bars of staff 6, main part; adding effects and vocals, then reversing it.

2: These are staffs 1, 2, 3 and 4 all mixed down; staffs 1 and 2 having that echoing effect. Staffs 1 and 2 are one instrument; and staffs 3 and 4 are another and cannot be echoed. I have a dual button that lets me play them together, while editing their volume; pitch; octave; ect. separately.

3. Staff 5 is the same instrument as staff 6; but without the convolution.

4. Staff 6 is the same instrument as staff 5; but it has all the cool effects as the first 16 measures within the whole piece.

Your edited .not version is nice; and I thank you. Now all i need to do is add the notes; using the sound velocity tab to make them sound like an echo, while remembering that I used a 1/6 echo.

These are first 5 echo types, 1/4; 1/6; 1/8; 1/12; 1/16

Thank you so much for taking the time to listen. I greatly appreciate it.

-James

P.S. I should also mention that all staves have the sustain pedal down all the way through the whole of the song; Thus allowing the echo to run together a little. (I do that a lot to my pieces; specially strings.)
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Last edited by lavajunkie; 09-05-2015 at 03:24 PM. Reason: added info
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