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Old 03-22-2012, 01:01 AM
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Default Splitting Notes, Confused.

Hi, just started using the trial of Composer, and I'm running into a bit of a problem. I imported a MIDI of something played exactly as intended, it sounded perfect in my DAW, but when it was converted to notation, in 2 different places in the song, it combined 2 clearly played and properly spaced 16th notes into a single 8th note. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to change that 8th note to 2 16th notes now. I can convert it from an 8th to a 16th, but then it automatically adds a 16th rest immediately after, and I don't seem able to change the rest to a note either for some reason. Is there some way to do this that I am just not seeing?

If anyone can help at all I would be incredibly appreciative. Thanks.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: Splitting Notes, Confused.

Hi Simon,

You can just add a 16th note to the location where the rest is currently.
1. Click on the Notes palette, and the 16th note button. It should automatically go to "Add" mode (if not, just click the big "Plus sign" button on the toolbar).
2. Click on the score where you want the 16th note.

For more on adding and editing notes, you can see the Tutorial Videos here on the forum, or see Help/Users Guide, and use the Index to look up whatever you're interested in.

I'd be interested to know if the exported .mid file, when re-imported into your other MIDI app, played the 8th note or the two separate 16th notes. We have seen some apps that have issues with .mid export, so I'd like to know if it's the exported file, or the importation of that file, that caused this issue in our software. If you wouldn't mind sending me a copy of the exported .mid file, and letting me know exactly where the note(s) occur, I'd appreciate it.

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Old 03-22-2012, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: Splitting Notes, Confused.

Hi Sherry, thank you so much for the quick reply! Unfortunately I figured it out about 2 minutes after posting this. I also had the ruler set to 8th notes, which didn't help either.

Honestly, I'm not going to blame either software for that, because I was doing something rather unorthodox, which I will not likely ever need to do again, nor would anyone else, and the timing was strange, so I'm amazed that the results were as accurate as they were, only a few small adjustments needed to be made for it to be basically perfect.

What I was doing, just so you understand...the 10th anniversary of the day my wife and I met is next month. We met at a show, we both went to see the band Thursday, which to this day is both mine and her favorite band. So on that day next month, she is getting a tattoo of a staff with an excerpt of the vocal melody from one of their songs. So I imported that song into my DAW, and played on my MIDI keyboard along with the vocal melody until it sounded right. When I imported the song into my DAW, I didn't bother to actually line up the tempo exactly, I was only concerned with mapping out the correct notes so I didn't have to manually write it out one note at a time. It came out perfect aside from those few notes that were combined, which, I think you are right, it is probably just the quantization of my DAW at work upon export, since the timing wasn't perfect beforehand.

Thanks again for the reply, I really appreciate it. Composer is so user-friendly now that I'm getting used to it, I'll definitely be purchasing it in the near future.
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Hi Simon,

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Honestly, I'm not going to blame either software for that, because I was doing something rather unorthodox, which I will not likely ever need to do again, nor would anyone else, and the timing was strange, so I'm amazed that the results were as accurate as they were, only a few small adjustments needed to be made for it to be basically perfect.

What I was doing, just so you understand...the 10th anniversary of the day my wife and I met is next month. We met at a show, we both went to see the band Thursday, which to this day is both mine and her favorite band. So on that day next month, she is getting a tattoo of a staff with an excerpt of the vocal melody from one of their songs. So I imported that song into my DAW, and played on my MIDI keyboard along with the vocal melody until it sounded right. When I imported the song into my DAW, I didn't bother to actually line up the tempo exactly, I was only concerned with mapping out the correct notes so I didn't have to manually write it out one note at a time. It came out perfect aside from those few notes that were combined, which, I think you are right, it is probably just the quantization of my DAW at work upon export, since the timing wasn't perfect beforehand.
Cool - that sounds very personalized

And just for future reference, in cases where the music isn't perfectly lined up tempo-wise with the MIDI metronome (ie barlines), Composer has ReBar, which allows you to take that "metronomeless" MIDI file and tap in (or manually adjust) the barlines so that the notation comes out correctly and still keeps the tempo nuances of the performance. I just put up a Tutorial Video for it this weekend

Glad that you're finding Notation Composer to be helpful and easy to work with!

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