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     Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 2881 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello Composer beta testers, An intermediate beta release version 1.9.14C is available in the post at: Notation Software Support Forum » Notation Musician 2.0 and Composer 2.0 Beta Release » Your Feedback for Areas Not Listed Above » new Freeze Layout feature in v1.9.14B This 1.9.14C release introduces a new Freeze Pages command, which you can use to avoid unwanted changes in page breaks and lines breaks, especially when the score is printed on a different printer. There might have been a serious bug in version 1.9.14B in which .NOT files saved could not be reopened. Although I could not reproduce that bug, I have made some changes in 1.9.14C that fixed some suspicious possible sources of such a bug. If you have previously installed version 1.9.14B, I highly encourage you to get the patch at the above post to update to version 1.9.14C. Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Jaap Veneman (jaapv) Senior Forum User Username: jaapv Post Number: 339 Registered: 6-2003 |
Mark, I very much appreciate this new function, because Composer many times fooled me by slightly changing the formatting when saving or printing or switching between pageview - windows vieuw and back to page view. However even much more helpfull in the page formatting commands would be: 1) a command that freezes the last measure of a notation to the last page / bottom left end. This is for which I use a workaround by adding an empty measure and force this to the next page by a page break. The I print the notation except the last (empty) page) 2) When clicked on the Layout button I miss a function to switch back from one of the formatting modes to a normal page view. In this case I click on the notes and rests button, but then are direct in editing mode, now must switch back into select mode, before continuing most common work. I suggest either to add a button in the layout function that switches back to Pageview, or when clicking one of the or the menu's then switch back in selection mode (instead of editing) 3 could be I reported the earlier. When in layout mode, clicking on the P button, the main menu switches to the Text, I would expect here Composer would stay in the Layout menu. Cheers Jaap | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 2885 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello Jaap, I'm pleased that you like the new Freeze Layout command. Please let me know if you find cases where either does not sufficiently freeze the pages or freezes them too much. There's a balance between too little freezing and too much freezing that the Freeze Layout command must achieve. This command would require a lot of judgment on Composer's part. Suppose the last measure has nothing but a whole note, and that last measure is the only one in the last line. It would look quite silly for that measure to span across the whole page. So, Composer should move at least one measure from the previous line to the last line, so that this last little measure won't be so lonely. But that might not be enough. Maybe the second to last measure is also a very small whole note measure. So, somehow the measures in the last page need to be spread out evenly, even if the the lines (systems) don't go all the way to the bottom of the page. But, things get even more complicated. What if this measure is a little whole measure, all by itself on the last page, and yet the previous page is already completely packed so that there isn't room for that extra last measure. So, some measures from the end of the previous page need to be bumped to the last line which is on the last page. Ok, so how far back on the previous page should measures be bumped forward? And, should this propagate to even prior pages? What rules should Composer use to simulate the judgment of a human about these decisions? Do you really want Composer to make these decisions for you? If so, I'm somewhat at a lost as to what the rules should be. Not to mention that this would be very difficult to program. Still, I'm open to ideas here. I know this is something you've wanted for a long time. I don't know whether any other notation program has ever successfully addressed this particular requirement. I'll fix this so that when you're in Layout View, you will be able to click the Page View button and it that will put you in Select Mode. The 'P' button is for Page Text, which you have suggested be renamed to Page Header/Footer, which I think is probably a good idea. Also, perhaps I should change the button to look like this:  Do you think the above would avoid some confusion about "P" for Page Layout versus "P" for Page Text (header/footer)? This last issue is also talked about in this other forum thread. Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Jaap Veneman (jaapv) Senior Forum User Username: jaapv Post Number: 342 Registered: 6-2003 |
Mark, concerning point 1) (fixing the last measure) I agree, with my "workaround" this happens often, but I change than most cases the horizontal spacing making Composer to better distribute the measures, works good for me. Or I use one or more system breaks to do the same. Most arrangements I have in our type of music, I add an ending (played by Keyboard only or bij the band) that is placed on the last system, by a system break. For me personally composer should not have further roles here, and I understand that whatever role you would add here, could be difficult to implement and conflicting with other rules. 2) Your suggestion is fine for me, actually I was trying to use that the page view button for that but this one was inactive. But see also the other thread where I earlier added a suggestion. http://www.notation.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=28173&post=20176#POST20176 The same for 3) see my comments in this other forum thread Cheers Jaap |
