| Author | Message | ||
     James P. Ritchie Unregistered Guest |
I'm testing the demonstraton version of MIDINotate Musician to print some MIDI files. For one of the files, Musician gave a key signature of F major, but the original score was in B Flat Major. Is there some way to change the key signature to that selected by the composer using enharmonics? Also it would be helpful if the score could be printed with a key signature of C major. Also, I'm wondering if I missed some way to show pedaling and tempi ? The messages for these events are in the MIDI file and could be automatically printed. I see there is a capability to add pedaling after the initial processing. The multiple voicing has worked nicely so far. Sincerely, Jim Ritchie | ||
| David Jacklin (dj) Senior Forum User Username: dj Post Number: 160 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi, Jim: Under the Tracks menu you'll find Transpose Actual Pitches. From there you can transpose your file anywhere you like. The keyboard shortcut for that is "qtp". I can't remember whether Musician displays tempi and pedal markings or not. If you're just using the demos, download the demo of Composer and try that. It has provisions for adding pedal and tempo markings. | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) Notation Software Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 1215 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello Jim, In both MidiNotate Musician and Composer, you can add tempo marks as free text that combines music symbols and normal text, such as in d=120, where 'd' is a quarter note. MidiNotate does not automatically convert MIDI tempo events to tempo marks. You can show the graph of MIDI tempi to see where you might want to add tempo marks such as d=120, accel or deaccel. In both MidiNotate Musician and Composer, you can add pedal marks, both the notation and performance. Also, there is an option to convert MIDI sustain pedal events to notated pedal marks, and vice versa. It would take many paragraphs to describe the details for the above procedures, which are described in the Help / User's Guide. Use the documentation Index to look up "tempo" and "pedal". Cheers -- Mark | ||
| James P. Ritchie Unregistered Guest |
Hello David, Transposing the actual pitches isn't what was asked for. The notes are at the correct pitch but the key signature displayed is not that indicated by the composer. I didn't see a way to fix this and perhaps there isn't one. In the tests I've run a single key signature is used throughout a single file, but it's quite common for a composition to have one or more key changes in it. I haven't yet found a way to incorporate that yet. The demo. didn't display pedaling and tempi automatically, which were in the input MIDI file. Musician has a provision for entering pedaling after the initial processing. Thanks anyway, Jim Ritchie | ||
| James P. Ritchie Unregistered Guest |
Hello Mark, I had already found the procedure for adding the pedal and tempo marks, but there's nothing about automating it. Also, I didn't find a way to discover where the sustain events occurred using Musician. So, one would have to use something to inspect the event list to determine where they are in an existing MIDI file. In fact that might be a feature request - some way to inspect the MIDI event list directly. There are a number of other events that would be of interest. That way you would be sure you were annotating the actual events in the file, rather than what's in the sheet music. Sincerely, Jim Ritchie | ||
| David Jacklin (dj) Senior Forum User Username: dj Post Number: 163 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hello, James: Sorry I misunderstood your 1st post. Just click on the key sig in whatever bar and you should be able to change it, without transposing. To convert pedal events to pedal markings, select the track you wish to work on. I suggest just using the Select Entire Track arrow at the left of the screen. Then type Shift-S TWICE! (Mark, the documentation says to type it once, which takes you to the slurs menu). Then select the bottom icon on the palette (Convert Pedal Performance to Pedal Marks) or just type "m". The marks should appear. You are right in that Composer/Musician doesn't automatically convert them when importing the midi file. Mark, is that a future feature? | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) Notation Software Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 1227 Registered: 7-2003 |
Jim and Ritchie, To do some of thing you want to do, Jim, you'll need MidiNotate Composer, not MidiNotate Musician. Only Composer shows you and lets you edit graphs of tempi and pedal marks. David, I should add to Setup / Transcription Options an option to automatically transcribe pedal marks. That's easy to do. It's now on the to-do list. I've considered automatically transcribing all of the following: tempo marks, dynamic marks, accent marks, and slurs. Someday I'll give it a try. Like rhythm transcription, good transcription of these markings requires a very delicate balance between not over-notating and not under-notating. Every example of this that I have seen in some other MIDI/notation application errors very much on the side of over-notating. For now, I think Composer offers a good compromise by showing the user the graphs of tempo, track volume, and note velocities, so that the user can use these as a visual cue, in addition to listening, to quickly decide where the various types of marks should go. My intuition is that I will never be happy letting the software, even software that I've written myself, decide for me whether, for example, whether a note with velocity 93, surrounded by notes with velocities 72, 73, and 68, should be marked with an accent mark or not. See what I mean? Cheers -- Mark | ||
| James P. Ritchie Unregistered Guest |
Hello David, It's easy to change the key signature as you suggested. Thanks. The only thing to note here is that if the key signature is for Cmaj or Amin there is nothing to click on and there isn't a hot spot between the cleff and time signs. But, one can navigate to a dialog through the Staff Symbols | Key signature buttons. Regarding the pedaling, after selecting the entire track and typeing Shift-S twice, pressing 'm' has no discernible effect. However a 'Pedal' menu item is now showing. After clicking on it, the 'm' item is showing as grayed-out. So the pedal marks can be added manually, as before, but it is not automated. Sincerely, Jim Ritchie | ||
| James P. Ritchie Unregistered Guest |
FWIW, Jim Ritchie is one person and it is an error to address me as "Jim and Ritchie". -Jim Ritchie | ||
| David Jacklin (dj) Senior Forum User Username: dj Post Number: 165 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hello, James: Regarding transcribing pedal marks, I may have steered you toward a feature that is in Composer but not Musician. I'm working with an older beta version of Musician as a comparator to Composer. Musician is bascially a subset of Composer. | ||
| James P. Ritchie Unregistered Guest |
Hi David, Composer allows the display of a pedaling graph, and provides a point and click interface to add the corresponding marks. Jim Ritchie |
