| Author | Message | ||
     Mark Walsen (markwa) |
If you have problems running the MidiNotate setup program, see whether the issue is discussed here. If not, start a conversation. | ||
| carlos rafael |
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| Michael P |
On the trial version, the set-up won't execute. Error message says "unable to find installation languages in C:\windows\temp\pftBOF~TMP\setup.lid" There are no operating files in the Win temp dir. Installations may created temps but not the reverse. I've never seen one try to install from an empty dir. This is a bug. What file is this looking for? Is there a patch? | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) |
Hello, Michael MidiNotate uses InstallShield, the most common setup program. The temporary directory is created by InstallShield. This is also quite common. The most likely explanation is that your system is very low on disk space. Another explanation might be that you are logged into Windows as a user that does not have sufficient priviledges to create a subdirectory in the Windows temp directory. If those two explanations are wrong, I'm pretty much out of ideas for now, but do let me know. I can (or you can) visit InstallShield's web site and investigate possible explanations for this error message. MidiNotate uses InstallShield version 5 and PackageForTheWeb 3.0. Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
Another explanation might be that you are running XP. I get a similar message trying to install the trial version. It installs and runs on 98SE, however. I moved the installed executable from the 98 installation to my XP system, and it does not run. Says it can't figure out how long I've been using the trial. No doubt the programmers don't test on contemporary operating systems. I will not purchase the commercial version until I can run the trial on my main computer, which has XP. Al Stevens http://www.alstevens.com | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) Registered Forum User Username: markwa Post Number: 867 Registered: 4-2002 |
Hello Al, If you attempt to merely copy the MidiNotate trial version application files from one system to another, then you'll get the error message on the second system that MidiNotate cannot determine how long it has installed on that system. If you want to install the trial version of MidiNotate on a second system, then you can copy the MidiNotate409TrialSetup.exe from the first system to the second, and run MidiNotate409TrialSetup.exe on the second system. You'll get a full 30-day trial on the second system, regardless of how long you were trying out MidiNotate on the first system.) If MidiNotate409TrialSetup.exe is no longer on your first system, then you can download and install it again from www.notation.com/midinotatedownload.htm By the way, I've been using XP for about two years as the system on which I develop and primarily test MidiNotate. But I also test MidiNotate on older systems: Win98, ME, NT, and 2000 (but no longer Win95). Cheers -- Mark (the developer of MidiNotate) | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
Thanks Mark, but I still cannot install the trial version on my XP system. I'll try again later and report the precise message. Perhaps we can figure out why. Al Stevens http://www.alstevens.com | ||
| Danny Unregistered Guest |
Al, I'm running XP-home and used the trial period with no problem. It counted down each day as expected and met my expectations so I recently purchased the non-expiration version (according to Mark, this will entitle me to the Spring 2004 update as well). Being a guitar player my only issue is the transcription MidiNotate creates doesn't necessarily create the easiest fretboard fingering but at least its a start. Danny | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
Here are the details. XP-Pro, 256MB, 39 GB available HD Upon executing the downloaded file named MidiNotate409TrialSetup.exe, the following error message displays: Cannot find file (C:\DOCUME~\A4620~\LOCALS~1\Temp\pft39B~tmp\SETUP.EXE (or one of its components). Check to ensure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available. The path is valid up to C:\DOCUME~\AL4620~\LOCALS~1\Temp\ (assuming one may expand the ~ alias to valid folder names) The Temp subdirectory is empty. Al Stevens http://www.alstevens.com | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) Registered Forum User Username: markwa Post Number: 874 Registered: 4-2002 |
Hello Al, Please try this: 1. Click the Start button in the left bottom corner of the screen. A pop-up menu will be displayed. 2. Choose Explore in the pop-up menu. 3. Navigate to the Windows/Prefetch directory. 4. In the Windows/Prefetch directory delete all files named SETUP.UP (upper or lower-case). Also, delete all files that start with the name MidiNotate. 5. Try running MidiNotate409TrialSetup.exe again from your download directory. I would appreciate your report back here in the forum whether this works. Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
> 3. Navigate to the Windows/Prefetch directory. No such folder. There is one on an XP Home laptop here, but the computer giving the problem is an XP Pro desktop. XP has numerous system-level architectural differences from XP Home. I found c:/WinXP/Prefetch on the XP Pro desktop, but none of the files you mention are in that folder. In fact, there are no files with the extension .up anywhere on the XP Pro's hard drive. I cleaned everything off the hard disk that starts with midinotate except the downloaded trial version file, and the result is the same. What next? | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) Registered Forum User Username: markwa Post Number: 875 Registered: 4-2002 |
Al, Another MidiNotate user has reported the following work-around: > In the temp directory were two files that explorer identified as 'Folders'. > In the one that's named \pft###~1\ (the #'s are there because each time I > tried to install the program, these numbers changed) there was a 'data2.cab' > file. I renamed the file to 'data1.cab' and moved the > (renamed) data1.cab up into the \temp directory, the program installed > without further difficulty. I hardly have a clue why this would solve the problem (or how the other MidiNotate user came up with this solution), but it is certainly worth your trying. The next release of MidiNotate will use a newer version of the InstallShield setup software that I believe will fix this rare problem. Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
Okay, we might be almost on to it. I'll run some experiments and document what happens here. 1. I removed all the residue about former attempts to install or use midinotate from the hard disk and the registry. 2. There are 3 user folders that might be of interest in: c:Documents and Settings they are: Al Al4620~1~DEL Al.DELL The first one is the user account under which I log on. The second is unknown to me, probably the residue from some 16-bit application trying to use the third. The third is a user that was set up some time ago when I was fooling with other things. That user has since been deleted, but its folder lingers on. All three folders have Local Settings/Temp subfolders and all three subfolders are empty. 3. Okay, lets try the installation from your trial version, which runs from: C:\Documents and Settings\Al\My Documents\Downloads\midinotate\ This results in the error message I reported earlier. I do not know why your setup wants to install into an account subdirectory that is not involved in this session. In any event, none of the Temp folders have anything in them, and a search reveals that there are no pft*.* files anywhere under Documents and Settings. In fact, there are no such files anywhere on the hard drive. So the setup script was looking for a file in a folder that was not only not in the folder it thought it ought to be, but is nowhere on the hard disk. 4. Now since the Installshield script is looking where it ought not, and since that user account folder is unknown to me and not listed among XP's recognized users, let's delete the folder and try again. I hope I don't trash my system. 5. I deleted it and now I'm going to reboot just in case. If you don't hear back in the next couple of minutes, I have committed hari kari. Al Stevens http://www.alstevens.com | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
I'm back. I thought I posted this followup yesterday, but it doesn't show up on the board. The problem persists and the setup script for the trial version creates the odd subdirectory named C:\DOCUME~\A4620~DEL\LOCALS~1\Temp. Not sure why. Perhaps it's getting that path from somewhere in the Registry. I also do not understand why, given that it wants that path and given that it creates that path, it does not copy anything into it and then complains when it can't find SETUP.EXE in it. My wild guess is that a bug in Installshield is inconsistent with XP Pro. Has anyone successfully installed the trial version on XP Pro? | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) Registered Forum User Username: markwa Post Number: 896 Registered: 4-2002 |
Al, More than 50% of customers who purchase MidiNotate install it on XP, but I don't know what the percentages are for XP Pro vs XP Home, nor why there would be any difference in the behavior of InstallShield. I will try rebuilding the MidiNotate setup program using a more recent version of InstallShield. Perhaps this will fix the problem. Al, I will make available to you the rebuilt setup program. Will your ISP permit you to receive a 3.5Mb email file attachment? Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
Yep, you can send any size attachment. If the newer Installshield doesn't fix the problem, we can start probing what's inside my XP Pro box. My guess is that there's some setting somewhere that Installshield does not anticipate. Looking through the registry, I find that lots of applications have keys with values that are prefixed by the same screwy path. The funny path is the tilde abbreviation for Documents and Settings\Al.DELL\Local Settings\Temp. For some reason, XP Pro lets Installshield create a subdirectory with the abbreviated name when there is already one in place with the expanded name. Things go downhill after that. I'll try one more experiment and report back. Al PS. There are lots of differences between XP Home and XP Pro. It's probably the same kernel, but Pro has security settings and services running that boggle the mind. The network stuff alone is daunting. I'm not a MSCE, but my daughter is, and she says you don't want to know. | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
This is getting strange. I logged on as a different user and ran the setup program while watching that user's temp folder. Installshield creates the folder it needs and populates it with your setup files, reports that it cannot find the setup.exe file as before, and then, while I'm looking at the stuff and before I've acknowledged the error dialog, deletes everything it created. Logging on with my usual userid, I observe the same behavior. Now, here's something I did not notice before. The error dialog has the title, "Cannot run 16-bit application." I run other 16-bit apps (Band-In-A-Box, for example), so this is a puzzle. I'd bet dinner that your new setup with a new Installshield makes this problem go away. I'm going to put all this aside until I get that unless there's another test you'd like me to run. Al | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) Registered Forum User Username: markwa Post Number: 897 Registered: 4-2002 |
Al, I wouldn't bet you dinner on this, because you are almost certainly right. The details you observed are completely consistent with a known problem with the older version of InstallShield I was using. The problem has to do with the deleting of temporary files, just as you have observed. The newer version of InstallShield should fix this problem. If the new setup program I send you fixes the problem, then I will start distributing it instead of the old one. Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Al Stevens Unregistered Guest |
Looks like the new Installshield fixed it. Thanks. Al | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 238 Registered: 7-2003 |
Al, Thanks for the report back. I will update the MidiNotate setup program with this fix. I don't know how many Windows XP users were running into this setup problem, but I did hear a couple of reports like yours in the last year. So, this fix might really help some otherwise frustrated folk who downnload the trial version of MidiNoatate and cannot get it installed on Windows XP. Cheers-- Mark | ||
| Anonymous |
HE yguys im trying to download PSP but i get an error saying missing data1.cab does anyone have that file? that i could download or something? | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 1662 Registered: 7-2003 |
What is PSP? Paint Shop Pro? Perhaps you're visiting the wrong forum. -- Mark | ||
| william bailey Unregistered Guest |
installing midinotate musician on laptop/windows 98. Get to install shield's first screen and get "welcome to setup" screen which instructs to click "next button" at bottom of page. Problem is there are NO buttons at bottom of page, only blank space. Screen is frozen in this position and that's then end of process. | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 2553 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello William, I have replied via email to this same question that you sent to the helpdesk at support@notation.com. Cheers -- Mark |
