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Jaap Veneman (jaapv)
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Post Number: 366
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

Bad luck with the 2.03 update, which is a serious problem.

I started a fresh new notation from the piano template.
In the Staff setup menu I added one track, and changed the long and short names of the tracks in resp
Mondharmonica - MH (the new added staff)
Keyboard melodie, KB RH
Keyboard Acc - KB LH

Then in part menu I made two parts resp Mondharmonica and Keyboard,
and deleted the original Piano part.

I found the long and short names of the staffs remained piano resp pno. After switching back to the staff menu to check the names again these were canged slowly the names changed very slowly but during this Composer stopped responding, the famous MS error message appeared. I saved the MS error log file and attached it for your information.

text/plain
6af_appcompat.txt (5.0 k)



I hope this helps to pinpoint the problem

Cheers Jaap
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Jaap Veneman (jaapv)
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Post Number: 367
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

I again prepared freshly new notation using the piano template.
Again tried to change the names of the piano tracks in the staff setup menu. ( I noticed you implemented an old wish being the piano placed in the middle before the two staffs, great>)
The names were effectively changed in the staff setup menu, but in the page view mode the names of the piano do not change accordingly.
Composer did not crash now.



I added a new track with the name MH Melodie.
I can succesfully change that name afterwards in the track setup menu.
I also tested then an orchestra template and tried to change the names of the piano track, but also here the changed names are not reflected in the page view.

Cheers Jaap
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Jaap Veneman (jaapv)
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Post Number: 368
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

Sorry, Its now clear. You implemented a menu command to add a special piano track, with the name Piano in front/middle of two staffs, and with the accolade (? NL) sign. This name is independent of the names in the Staff setup menu.
I cannot find the command to change the name into for example organ.

What I observed - see my first message - that when having changed the names of the piano track in the staff setup, Composer started setting the track names before the tracks above and under "Piano", and then crashed.

Cheers

Jaap
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Mark Walsen (markwa)
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Username: markwa

Post Number: 3204
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Jaap,

My reading of the above three posts is that there are two issues:
(1) Composer crashed in some circumstance involving editing the staves/art.
(2) You have a question about how to change the name "Piano" that is displayed to the left of the brace for two staves.

First, the easy one: Click the brace. Notice in the Brace/Bracket Palette a button that looks like "Pno{" Click it, and you'll be able to change "Piano" to, say, "Keyboard".

I wasn't able to reproduce the crash problem, because the steps were not clear to me. Here are the steps I tried:
  1. Create a new song using the Piano template.
  2. Choose the Staff / Setup command.
  3. With the first row selected by default, click the Add button. That creates a second row with Acoustic Grand as the instrument name.
  4. Click the Move Up button to move that staff to the top staff position.
  5. Change the Staff name and Abbrv of the new first staff to "Mondharmonica" and "MH".
  6. Change the Staff name and Abbrv of the second staff to "Keyboard Melodie" and "KB RH".
  7. Change the Staff name and Abbrv of the third staff to "Keyboard Acc" and "KB LH".
  8. Click the OK button to exit the Staff Setup dialog box.
  9. Choose the Part / Display and Define Parts command.
  10. In the Display and Define Parts dialog box, unselect Keyboard Melodie and Keyboard Acc so that just Mondharmonica is selected.
  11. Click the Add Part command. The new part is named New Part.
  12. Change the Part Name from "New Part" to Mondharmonica, and click the Change Part Name button.
  13. Under Select Staves in Part, Select Keyboard Melodie and Keyboard Acc and unselect Mondharmonica.
  14. Click the Add Part command. The new (third) part is named New Part.
  15. Change the Part Name from "New Part" to Keyboard, and click the Change Part Name button.
  16. Select the Piano part.
  17. Hit the Delete Part button.
  18. Click the Display Part and Exit button.
Do your steps differ from the above?

I do notice that Composer's Display and Define Parts dialog initially displays <~temporary> as the name of the part. This is worrisome. Perhaps there is a bug associated with that. The <~temporary> name should not be displayed.


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I found the long and short names of the staffs remained piano resp pno.


Where were did you see these unexpected staff names? Displayed in the score? Displayed in the Staff / Setup dialog box? Or displayed in the Part / Defined Parts dialog box?


quote:

After switching back to the staff menu to check the names again these were canged slowly the names changed very slowly but during this Composer stopped responding, the famous MS error message appeared. I saved the MS error log file and attached it for your information.


I wasn't able to reproduce this bug. Please let me know how your steps differ from the above detail steps I listed, and let me know what additional steps you take afterwards that lead to the bug... if you can make the bug show up again.

Note, I will probably release a 2.0.3A very soon, because there is another bug in MusicXML exporting that I need to fix and release very soon. It would be great if we could pin down and fix this bug for the 2.0.3A release.

Cheers
-- Mark
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Jaap Veneman (jaapv)
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Post Number: 369
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 6:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Mark,

I will do that first thing tomorrow. Nearly at night here and a couple of good glasses wine will probably cause other bugs now, not in Composer.

Cheers Jaap
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Jaap Veneman (jaapv)
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Post Number: 370
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

--------------
ref (2)
You have a question about how to change the name "Piano"
that is displayed to the left of the brace for two staves.

First, the easy one: Click the brace. Notice in the Brace/Bracket
Palette a button that looks like "Pno{" Click it, and you'll be
able to change "Piano" to, say, "Keyboard".
--------------

Thanks very much. As you suggested I could change the
Piano and Pno names of the combined staff, also found the menu
where this command is. Works fine. I overlooked it because I expected this in the staff menu.

I cannot remember the exact steps and their order which caused Composer to crash yesterday. But I think it was not so much different from your procedure. I'm very sure one of the first things I did was making Composer to display in page view mode as default, which I could set in the "New" notation wizard.

I will continue to test the procedures several times en let you know the results.

Cheers Jaap
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Jaap Veneman (jaapv)
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Post Number: 371
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

I have done 10st of tests, starting with the new notation wizard,
following the procedure in slightly different ways but Composer remained stable. I think we must this issue frozen until it comes back again.

Btw. I have also seen now the <~temporary> name as you indicated a few times.

Cheers Jaap

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