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Alain THENOZ (althen)
Registered Forum User
Username: althen
Post Number: 7
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 6:25 pm: |     |
Improve chaining speed,
Now at least 2 seconds between 2 .not files, preloaded or not,
and moreover transition display is not clean.
As is, can't be used for live performance.
Cheers, Alain |
Mark Walsen (markwa)
Notation Software Developer
Username: markwa
Post Number: 3527
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 7:05 pm: | |
Hello Alain,
If you're using Musician or Composer for stage performances, you might want to work around this problem by pasting the .not files together.
Cheers
-- Mark |
Alain THENOZ (althen)
Registered Forum User
Username: althen
Post Number: 9
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 7:17 pm: | |
Mark,
but doesn't enable quick change, and more work!
Cheers. |
Mark Walsen (markwa)
Notation Software Developer
Username: markwa
Post Number: 3530
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:00 pm: | |
Hello Alain,
These are too few words for me to understand what it is you want to do and find lacking in the playlist feature.
Could you sketch out on more detail the bigger picture of what you're doing? For example, do you do live performances in front of audiences Notation as an accompanist for your voice or instrument?
Cheers
-- Mark |
Alain THENOZ (althen)
Active Forum User
Username: althen
Post Number: 12
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 4:17 pm: | |
Dear Mark,
We are a group of 2 to 4 musicians. The core team is 2, me and a friend, both playing accordion and saxophone. Could have another KB/trombone player and drummer.
We play live in private meetings, dance, jazz and piano bar style.
We play french folk music live, needing in that case only the score.
For pop/rock, or when drummer or KB missing , we play on midi files play back, in addition to score.
My goal is to go to paperless music, using a PC to run a software with additional screen for both of us.
One solution could be to scan scores and to have a "turn page" software. But not easy to sychronize with midi sequences.
With Composer (or Musician or Player), I hope to design a unique and top solution:
- real time score generation with dynamic display IN SEVERAL KEYS (C for accordion, Bb for sax tenor ans soprano, Eb for alto sax), each on a staff.
- midi sequence playing, with track muting if necessary (depending who is there)
- words display as karaoke for singing
We chain several songs without any blank, very important otherwise people leave dance floor. I tested Composer playlist and that's why I requested the evolution.
The chaining of songs into a playlist needs to be very clean, no blank, no glitch, no stuttering...
This is the minimum.
To have a full module, add the following:
User efficiency to find a playlist, load it and start it, in order to be quick and avoid errors (remember live in front of public!).
Would be nice to enable loading the next playlist by anticipation.
Add a first/next/previous song in playlist, and direct song access by rank. KB control should be possible.
May be play list indexing to recover it with a number (connecting a numeric keypad to the laptop)
For more specifications, I need to think about it and see other sofwares (Karaoke, DJ, Broadcasting...). Let me know.
In such environment, the PC is a low cost second hand laptop (Toshiba Portege R100, ie Centrino 1GHz, 512 Mo RAM, Win XP).
Thus, performances need to be optimized (probably loading and pre-formatting by anticipation...).
...
Hope it helps.
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Thanks a lot for all your quick replies to my posts.
Composer is really a tremendous solution and unique software.
If I bother you, it is because I want to make my projects successful.
Cheers,
Alain |
Mark Walsen (markwa)
Notation Software Developer
Username: markwa
Post Number: 3540
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:55 pm: | |
Hello Alain,
Thanks for describing the live performance situation in which you would like the playlist to switch between songs more cleanly.
When the playlist automatically advances from song to the next, you'll see the song time count down in seconds, starting at 3, 2, 1, and then start of playback. The seconds are displayed in red in the song time display box at the left top corner of the window.
When one song finishes, and the next song starts, do you observe a longer wait than these 3 seconds? If so, how long is the wait?
Cheers
-- Mark |
Alain THENOZ (althen)
Active Forum User
Username: althen
Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 2:58 pm: | |
Hi Mark,
The count is 2 when loading the next file and 1if already loaded.
But effective delay is about 1 second more.
Cheers,
Alain |
Mark Walsen (markwa)
Notation Software Developer
Username: markwa
Post Number: 3541
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 3:19 pm: | |
Hello Alain,
quote:The count is 2 when loading the next file and 1if already loaded. But effective delay is about 1 second more.
Perhaps Composer could offer an option for how many seconds count-down there is. Then you could change the count-down from 3 seconds to 0. There would probably still be a 1 second delay, though. The audience probably wouldn't have time to leave the dance floor in just one second ;-)
Normally, when you open a Notation .not file, you'll observe that it takes several seconds for it to open before you see the score and can start playing it. This takes even longer for a MIDI file, because it has to transcribe the MIDI file to notation. However, the playlist feature is already optimized to pre-load the next song in the playlist so that it's ready to display and play almost immediately after the end of the previous song.
The playlist feature also allows you do queue the next song to play after the current song. That next song in the queue doesn't need to be the next one listed in the playlist. Composer will pre-loaded the next song when you select it out of the normal order. Have you tried this DJ (disc jockey) feature?
Cheers
-- Mark |
Alain THENOZ (althen)
Active Forum User
Username: althen
Post Number: 14
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 3:36 pm: | |
Hi Mark,
It would be fine to set the delay.
3 seconds is toomuch, 1 second is acceptable.
DJ use fadein-fadeout to have no stop ;-)
I'll do more tests. It seems that with my PC+expander a kind of sound boost not in time happens, which makes me say that the transition is not clean. Don't know if it is common. In that case, may be a short auto volume drop could help.
I'll try the direct access queue feature, not noticed it exists.
Thanks, ALain |
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