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Herbert WENDE (herbert)
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Post Number: 294
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 4:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sherry, Mark,

What has happened to Aftertouch. I still can not find it in Composer.

Herbert
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Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Post Number: 2226
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 8:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howdy Herbert,

It's on the list for the next major release. I apologize for the delay.

ttfn,
Sherry
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Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Post Number: 2227
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 8:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

p.s. If I recall correctly, I think you can define a controller number in the Garritan libraries to whatever controller you want. You could then graph or set a fixed number for that controller (using the "Ctrl+?" button) in Composer using the non-dedicated controller numbers that are available.

Worth a try? If you do, please let us know how if it works. That could be useful for other parameters and libraries as well.

ttfn,
Sherry
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Herbert WENDE (herbert)
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Post Number: 295
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Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 1:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sherry,

JAAB can use cc131 for vibrato control. cc131 is not used in Composer.

Best wishes,

Herbert
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Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Post Number: 2231
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howdy Herbert,

In reviewing this task as listed in our database, we do have support for aftertouch coming up later this year. The cc131 is a virtual controller (apparently some M-Audio specified virtual controller) that can be reassigned to another controller. I don't have the JAAB instruction manual to see how that might be accomplished within the library cc definitions, or if it's possible within that context.

ttfn,
Sherry
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Herbert WENDE (herbert)
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Post Number: 296
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Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sherry,

Here is a short section from the JABB manual.

“Vibrato Control: There are two controllers that affect vibrato. Aftertouch controls the intensity of the vibrato from no vibrato (Aftertouch = value of “0”) to exaggerated vibrato (Aftertouch = high number value.) Because both components of the vibrato are independently controllable the user can apply vibrato in a much more flexible and realistic fashion. The speed of the vibrato is controlled using cc17. Note that some keyboards, like those from M-Audio, have no Aftertouch function but can assign cc131 to a programmable slider which, in turn, will send Aftertouch data out to your computer.”

Best wishes,

Herbert
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Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Post Number: 2233
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howdy Herbert,

Thanks for that excerpt!

With that in mind, using the following should work for getting the vibrato into the performance.

"CC17" is not labeled as "Aftertouch" (presumably because of the aforementioned fact that not all keyboards support aftertouch) but you can set those values for CC17 in Composer using the following:

Graphing/Setting Aftertouch CC17

You can graph it using the graphing tools, or set a constant value with the "96" button/dialog.

Please do give it a try and let us know what happens.

ttfn,
Sherry
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Sherry Crann (sherry)
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Post Number: 2234
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Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 9:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

p.s. I should never read in a hurry - in re-reading Herbert's post, I understand now (obviously foggy on it earlier) that the Aftertouch aspect of the vibrato will be an intensity function while the CC17 will be the speed function. The above picture I posted shows how to graph the speed (cc17), but not the intensity (using After touch). I apologize for any confusion to others who are reading the thread, or who are just shaking their head at me right now ;)

Aftertouch is in the works. You can vibrate as fast as you want (cc17) but unfortunately no one will hear you :-(

ttfn,
Sherry

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