| Author | Message | ||
     william bailey Unregistered Guest |
when i try to install my midi notate musician CD, install goes fine until I hit the "welcome to setup for midi notate musician" screen. It indicates "to continue, clilck the "next" button below. Problem is that there are no buttons showing below to click. Therefore, this is as far as I get. I am using a PII laptop with windows 98. I tried the CD on my desktop with XP and the buttons DO show on that machine. Tried a different laptop and get the same problem as the 1st laptop, no "next" buttons to complete the installation. No firewall or virus software on either laptop. What should I try? | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 2552 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello William, I'll explore this further with you via your helpdesk support ticket at support@notation.com Sincerely, Mark | ||
| William R Chunn (chunn) Registered Forum User Username: chunn Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2005 |
I am unable to redownload the update for my " MidiNotate Musician 1.1" I have recieved 2 different down load keys but neither of them work, I get a message that it will not accept the DOWNLOAD KEY. I am not able to use any of my notate files. HELP! Thank You | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1425 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Bill, When you are trying to get a download via the Redownload.php page, please be sure that (1) you've got the right product selected (each product will have it's own download key) and (2) that you enter the download key _with_ the "-" characters. These two items are the most common causes for getting the message you got. If that doesn't work, please send us an email at the helpdesk (support"@"notation.com, and take out the " marks) and we'll get it straightened out for you. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Elettra Decimbro Unregistered Guest |
I'm trying to install NotationComposer 201 on my Win 98 PC, but just at the installation process is stopped at its beginning with following message MIDINOTATECOMPOSER117TRIALSMALLSETUP ha provocato un errore di protezione generale nel modulo DIBENG.DLL in 0003:00000fa9. Registri: EAX=000001a0 CS=03d7 EIP=00000fa9 EFLGS=00000202 EBX=00000100 SS=84ff ESP=0000adb8 EBP=0000add6 ECX=00000068 DS=3316 ESI=00000d60 FS=22e7 EDX=00000000 ES=2037 EDI=002dbc10 GS=0000 Byte all'indirizzo CS:EIP: f3 67 a5 80 d1 00 f3 67 a4 66 03 76 ee 66 03 7e Immagine dello stack: 00007492 00000000 00000020 00000000 00000000 ade0061f 039f854c adee061f 039f4b5e 33170000 00000ea0 00000004 22e70000 ae18061f 04d70b38 b63eb63a I have not been able to find any help both in FAQ andi in Forum... Could any one of you help me please ?? Thanks in advance Elettra | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1463 Registered: 1-2004 |
Hello Elettra, It looks like from your error message above that you actually have the old MidiNotate Composer 1.1.7 trial version trying to install. Please do the following: 1. Use your computer's "Add or remove programs" utility to remove any MidiNotate trial software you may have installed on your computer. This will also clear out any partial installations, which can cause problems. 2. Visit our website at www.notation.com/Download.htm to get the latest Notation Composer 2.0 trial version. 3. Try installing the newer version on your computer. 4. If you still have problems, please let us know. Probably the best way to do that is via our Helpdesk (support@notation.com, or http://www.notation.com/helpdesk/?_a=tickets&_m=submit to fill out an on-line form). We can more easily track problems and requests there. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Elettra Decimbro Unregistered Guest |
Thank you very much... I followed your instruction, but I had same result with version 2 also. I reverted the problem to the Helpdesk, as you suggested. Elettra | ||
| Elettra Decimbro Unregistered Guest |
Sorry... it's all OK now... I tried one more time before submitting my request to the Helpdesk, and this time the installation process did start and has been completed. I cannot say why, but it's good anyway. Regards Elettra | ||
| Rieg Unregistered Guest |
I have downloaded the trial of the Notation Composer version 2.01. The install program itself frezes at the the last step where everything is answerered on and it is just to press the "Install" button. Nothing happens, but the buttons become inaccessible at this point and I must use task manager to terminate the install program that does not even consumes cpu time. I have tried rebooted my PC, same results. I have tried both installs, with or without the handbook option, same result. Anybody else experiencing this? I am unable to install the Notation Composer which I indended to. | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1494 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Rieq, It sounds like you've probably got some "protective software", such as a firewall or antivirus software, that's blocking the installation process. Please try (1) turning off any protective software that you have on before (2) retrying the installation process (you can turn off your internet connection during the process to keep your computer safe if you wish), (3) reboot your machine (some Windows' setups need this to complete the installation), then (4) turn back on your protective software if it doesn't automatically come on with the computer reboot. If you have any further problems, do let us know. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Sherry, I am fact a computer programmer myself and not (normally) totally lost. However, this is not a firewall problem. If it was it should pop up a warning and allow me to stop or continue. But just to make sure I switched it off, same result. I have sometimes seen this in other cases when a sub window that requires further input pops up in the background and therefore unaccessable. The install program asks me a couple of questions and in the last step it saying "Click the install button to begin installing". At that point I click the install button. It reacts normally, but nothing happens - and from that moment, if I click again on a button or anywhere in this (install shield) install window, I just get a beep (typically when an unaccesable window is hidden in background that is waiting for input, but my input is in the wrong main install window still in the foreground. If this is the case, I can't switch that hidden window to the foreground so I can access it). So to sum it up, I never progress so far that I leave the blue Install Shield window and no files are beeing extracted and no cpu is consumed (waiting for some further input in hidden background?). To test this your self, you need to run the demo install from the beginning. Rieg. | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 3195 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello Rieg, I've been studying this setup problem a bunch. I think the problem is related to the fact that InstallShield for some reasons wants to hit the Internet at the end of the setup process. This is where a firewall might be unhappy, but you've said you have ruled this out. It's poor manners for a developer to criticize other developers' software, but I'll exercise some poor manners here and say that I'm fed up with InstallShield. I've hired another developer to replace InstallShield with another setup technology. I'll see a first draft of that work next week. I have high hopes that many setup problems that we've been having will be resolved. I'm hoping that the new setup will be ready for the 2.0.4 release scheduled for about 3 or 4 weeks from now. (2.0.3 is due in a few days, but it won't have the new setup.) Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Mark, Thanks for yours and Sherry's ultra quick replies. Yes, I am using Norton Internet security and it is very easy to disable it for a couple of minutes or longer. So I don't think the problem lies here. Regarding the installer, I am as said also a developer and have some software for the financial markets (www.gl-software.no). I am as you, selling this via internet too. I have been using Advanced Uninstaller PRO from http://www.innovative-sol.com/ with no problems. Only once did I need their support and their support was also ultra fast and good. So I can recommend them. My music is so far only (more or less) a hobby, but I have been on since 1980 and have issued some cassettes in the early days of electronic music (more history here: http://www.soundclick.com/rieg). Now I almost have a new Cd ready too. I have used 3 or 4 hours reading almost everything in your web pages. The Notation Composer seems to fulfill two of my most important needs. The composing part itself using notation (combined with easy test listening to what I make) and my wish for beeing able to document it properly. So my trial is probarbly unneccesary. I think I am convinced already that your software is exactly what I am looking for. Rieg | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2007 |
Correction!!! I glimpsed big here. The install software is "Install Creator" from http://www.clickteam.com/eng/index.php. But all i said about their (Clickteam) support is valid. Sorry for that one. Rieg | ||
| Fred Winterling (harbor1) Senior Forum User Username: harbor1 Post Number: 433 Registered: 4-2005 |
Hello Rieg, I listened to your music on soundclick. It is absolutely captivating. I have been wanting to try things like this but have had very little success. It would be great if you could upload some midi files of your creations. If you had no objections, I would love to run them in Composer to use them as a learning tool. Your effects are suberb! Really nice work! Cheers, Fred | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hello Fred, Thank you very much for your compliments. I know not many folks around do like electronic music, so it is always nice to hear from those that do. However, I can't supply midi's yet, because some of the synths are old analog synths without midi at all (can you believe that :-)) I still keep my oldest synth, a Roland SH-7 which I bought new in 1979 or 80. At that time no one had heard about midi. The floating sequence Part 4, is made up of 10 tracks (some tracks with newer midi capapable digital synth's and some tracks with analog synths not midi capable). This method of work makes it difficult to document this proper and that is my main reason for wanting Notation Composer in the future. In fact my old analog synths will soon be sent to england for specialized service and midi modifications. Why? These old analog synths, is artifacts these days and have their own soul in todays digital world and because of that well worth keeping. Rieg | ||
| Fred Winterling (harbor1) Senior Forum User Username: harbor1 Post Number: 434 Registered: 4-2005 |
Hi Rieg, quote: 'I know not many folks around do like electronic music, so it is always nice to hear from those that do.' I am not necessarily a fan of electronica, either. But when something is so well done you can count me in as a fan! It's fascinating. I assumed most of the tracks were done with analog synth ( absolutely well worth hanging onto ). I expect that eventually you will be doing a lot more with midi synths. Some of the stuff I've heard lately is incredible. With your skill and talent, I can foresee some wonderful recordings. Hope to hear some of them soon! All Best, Fred | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi again Fred, I am not really comfortable in the Electronica category at SoundClick. But it is probarbly what matches most with was is available to choose from at this site (and other sites too). There is a difference between Electronica and Elecronic Music (as a genre), but on most sites only Electronica is supported. In the 80's, everybody with this interest talked about Electronic Music only. Later, the Electronia genre has been born (as I see it). But Electronica is often music used in a dance floor for younger modern people. The Electronic Music is quite opposite and as such more intended for listening to. I don't know why the Elecronic Music genre is almost non-existent around and the Electronica has taken over as a closest match. Yes, I will be using more modern equipment from now on. I have a couple of fantastic new synths which are unbelivable good. And my old synts will be slightly modified so that these also will support midi in the future. The one thing I have missed, is a better way to do the compositions and beeing able to document the songs better too, and here is where the Notation Composer comes in as a perfect match. I am really looking forward to start using it. My appology to the moderators for beeing a little off topic here now. Rieg. | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1495 Registered: 1-2004 |
Hi Rieg, No need for apologies for being "off topic" - you're talking about music, and we love to hear it  If you do have some .mid files that you'd like to share, we have a special section of the forum just for that - "Share your music". BTW, I downloaded your songs from your SoundClick site, and am now listening to them. Very nicely done! I will be adding these to my playlist The forum is set up to correspond to the documentation, not to try and pigeon-hole responses, but just to try and make it easier for someone to find information about a specific area of the software that they may be interested in. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi again Sherry, I am still unable to install, but I came up with an idea. I will in couple of minutes try a new install after I have rebooted my pc in safe mode. If I am lucky the install Shield will work then. It should be pointed out that this problem has nothing to do with the Notation Composer itself. It is the Install Shield software that makes this trouble. I will let you know later how I did. Yes, I am a person who always read the manuals and when I find a site like yours I study it quite deep. So I think I have used 3-4 hours and taken the time to read almost everything in here (except for most of the forum messages). I do this sometimes when I find something unusual interesting on the net (in this case, your Notation site). And with all the positive response (even at weekends) from you folks, I think this is a little gold mine found :-). I'll try my safe mode reboot now. Rieg | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 7 Registered: 2-2007 |
Ok, I am back and happy to tell you that I now have installed the 2.01 trial version of the Notation Composer. I have even applied the 2.02 patch with success. What did not work here: In the Norton Internet Security Icon, You can right click and disable The Norton Internet Security. I did that, but it did not help. What did work. I rebooted my pc in safe mode (press F8 early in the boot process and windows will halt with a menu asking if you want to boot in safe mode). Safe Mode means that almost no Windows drivers are loaded, so you have a very basic windows (temporarily). The drawback is that the screen resolution is (also temporarily) set to the 640x480 and cannot be changed in safe mode. This means that it is only possible to see the upper left corner of the Install Shield program, so you have to choose the buttons in blindness. But with some trying with tab and arrows and enter (for hitting the right buttons), it should work. At last I came to the last step, where the install program freezed before. But this time I saw files beeing extracted and a reboot was then requested. When my pc rebooted, this was in normal mode as safe mode was not needed anymore. When I was in, I checked the that the Notation Composer was startable (which it was). I stopped it and proceeded with the patch upgrade. May be this can be used if other experiences install problems. Now it is the time for me start digging the Notation Program and it's manual :-). Rieg. | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 3197 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello Rieg, That is some excellent investigation of Composer's setup program that you have done. I've never tried running the setup in Windows Safe Mode. It is a very useful clue that this works around the problem. Fortunately, this problem will soon go away, because I will be completely throwing away InstallShield setup, and replacing it with another more reliable setup tool. The new setup might be ready in as soon as 10 days from now. Since you are one of the rare few people who reads documentation, you might especially enjoy getting a printed copy of the Composer Users Guide. See the bottom of this page: www.notation.com/Documentation.htm Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 8 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Mark, Oh, yes. I will soon order the full version with a CD and the manual. I will now go thru the 40 minutes help turial and that's all I need before ordering. It took me 3 months studying my thick Fantom X manual (including example trying and understanding). It is sometimes boring, but when done -I know what information exists, even If I can't remember the details. This in turn makes the overall understanding for the product much better. Rieg. | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1496 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy, Rieg said about reading the manual: ------------- but when done -I know what information exists, even If I can't remember the details. This in turn makes the overall understanding for the product much better. ------------- A man after my own heart This is actually how I learned an awful lot about Composer - I edited the first draft of the documentation way back for the 1.0 release, and boy did I learn a lot! I just wish everyone's documentation were as thorough. I just got done reading the docs for another program, and the whole thing only took me about 40 minutes. Big difference So Rieg, I hope you enjoy reading up on Composer, but mostly using it ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 3198 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello Rieg, I just saw your purchase of Notation Composer come through. Thank you! Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 9 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Mark, yes, I ordered it now with the extra CD. But do I need to upload the PDF manual to Lulu myself? Because when I search Lulu for their products, I see only a blank web page with a top menu (no products). To Sherry; Yes I will reading the manual and probably using this software much in the future, as I have been looking for this type of software for making my compositions for a while now. It gives me the best of two worlds, combined composing via notations and from my keyboards, from a scratch starting point. And that I can preview (prelisten) everything is really great too Rieg | ||
| Mark Walsen (markwa) MidiNotate Developer Username: markwa Post Number: 3199 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hello Rieg, You can order the Notation Composer 2.0 User Guide for $20 plus cost of postage at: http://www.lulu.com/content/580623 You won't download or upload anything. Rather, after you purchase the manual from lulu.com, they'll print it and send it to you in regular mail. If you want to print the 626-page manual yourself, you can download the PDF from www.notation.com/Documentation.htm It's so much more convenient, however, to get the printed manual. Cheers -- Mark | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Registered Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 10 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Mark, The reason for asking if needed to upload something is because if I paste in that link, the header in the browser are correctly stating "Notation Composer 2.0 User Guide" etc. But the whole Lulu page is blank except for the menu at the top on this site. I think their site is something wrong with or maybe they are off-line at weekends? I will order this manual as soon their site is working again. Rieg | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1498 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Rieg, I just checked the lulu page that our link goes to, and it's working now. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Active Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 11 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Sherry, Hmm, I have three computers here in a small network and none of them gets anything but Lulu's blank page. But this is only on the Browse tab page which is where I am directed to -via the link I got. And when I (in the browse tab page) search in the upper left in their web for products or books, I still only got a blank page with the top menu on it. Likewise, on the left they have an orange colored "Top 100 sellers" I can click on, but still only a blank page then. But, this is not so important. I will continue to check Lulu's page and order when it's ready. After all I have the PDF manual, so it is not a problem. Best regards from Rieg | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1499 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Rieg, Hmm, I just tried going to our "Documentation" page on the website (http://www.notation.com/Documentation.php), and clicking the link to the page at lulu where the Composer docs are available (http://www.lulu.com/content/580623). I even clicked the "Reload" button after I got there, to make sure I wasn't bringing up a cached page, and it appears to be working now, at least from Michigan, USA ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Active Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 12 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Sherry, I deleted my cookies, cache and set my internet security to zero (temporarily), but still blank. I will take contact with Lulu staff tomorrow when they are at work. I was on your site at Soundcheck and listened to all your beautiful songs. I particularily liked Carol of the Bells, the Celtic Mode, and Communion Aire. Rieg. | ||
| Clyde (clyde) Senior Forum User Username: clyde Post Number: 1025 Registered: 12-2002 |
Hi Geir & Sherry, Just for interest, I click on the Lulu.com link (http://www.lulu.com/content/580623) and had no trouble with it. By the way, the manual is certainly worth getting. Clyde | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Active Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 13 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Clyde, Here is what I see. The only right here is the header at far top and the menu itself. The rest is pure white :-). Rieg  | ||
| Fred Winterling (harbor1) Senior Forum User Username: harbor1 Post Number: 436 Registered: 4-2005 |
Hi Rieg, Often, the type of problem you are having with the lulu site are due to settings in your browser. It's possible you may have your pop up blocker turned on. Or also it is caused by settings in Internet Explorer. Your security level could be set too high, or: under "tools", "internet options", "security", "custom level" , you may want to check if Active X controls are enabled and also Java Script or most of the options under "scripting" are enabled. You might also try disabling Norton Anti Virus temporarily. However, my experience with the site was fine with Norton activated. One of their tech people should be able to tell you what internet options should be enabled or disabled. Wish I could be of better help, but the problem is definitely a setting in your computer that is not allowing the full page to show. Cheers, Fred | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Active Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Fred, I have tried most browser options I think , but I am quite relaxed about this. I take it further tomorrow with the people at Lulu. And I have the pdf manual, so it is not a big problem. I was impressed by your music at the soundclick site, by the way. I listened to all your songs there and left a note in your message box too :-) Rieg | ||
| Fred Winterling (harbor1) Senior Forum User Username: harbor1 Post Number: 438 Registered: 4-2005 |
Hi Rieg, Thank you for the compliments. If you get the chance, check out my web site at : www.mysite.verizon.net/icompose/iwritethesongs/ There are more song files and are midi files that can be displayed in Composer. Maybe you could give me some pointers to make them sound better. Sometimes my balance (instruments,velocity,etc) leaves a little to be desired. Thanks again. I'll check out your message on soundclick. Cheers, Fred | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1501 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Rieg, Thanks for the compliments as well, and the message board note The Carol of the Bells was a live recording of me playing, but the other two songs you mentioned are here on the forum in the "Share your music" section if you want to see what they look like as well as try your own sounds out with them. Sometimes I do that with other folks music (as well as my own) to get some different ideas about how to rework a piece. And it's just fun ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Active Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 15 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Fred, I would love to go in an look at your site, but I think you have a typing error somewhere in the address. It's difficult to say what you can do to get the sound better. Most of your songs has very good sound quality. I noticed one or two which possible was a bit distorted, maybe because too loud. If you are using the Garritan Personal Orchestra, I think the sound is dependent of the quality of their samples and the quality of your sound card. I do not know the Garritan Personal Orchestra and if they are supporting effects in addition. Maybe it is possible to import effect samples to it too, but I am not sure. Best Regards Rieg | ||
| Fred Winterling (harbor1) Senior Forum User Username: harbor1 Post Number: 440 Registered: 4-2005 |
Hi Rieg, I had the same problem with that URL. For some reason, the www is messing it up. Using that URL it came up under the Yahoo Search engine and that search engine showed the site without the www. Try this one: http://mysite.verizon.net/icompose/iwritethesongs That worked without the www. It always worked before. I don't know why it doesn't work now, but the http:// works fine. Thanks!! Cheers, Fred | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Active Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 16 Registered: 2-2007 |
Ok, here is a follow up with what was going on at Lulu's (the e-book publisher). Case closed. I finally was able to order the Composer handbook :-) Rieg Posted: 19 Feb 2007 02:45 pm Post subject: Problem to see a page with its content. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I am trying to order item 580623. When I search for that item, it is found (with a link). When I press this link, the page is re-opened with a header in the browser which indicates the correct book I will order. But - This page conatins only the Lulu menu and an orange "Top 100 Sellers" box at upper left. The rest of the page is as white as pure snow. I have a screen shot of this, but it seems that this forum does not support uplads of pictures. In this white (my product) Lulu page, even if I press the "Top 100 Sellers" line or search for all products, the page continues to contain no data other than the Lulu menu. Because of this, I can't order what I want. Regards from Geir Laastad Posted: 19 Feb 2007 04:32 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geir, Can you let me know some more information, like what browser you're using, and if you see this on any other page on the site? Thanks! Posted: 19 Feb 2007 05:14 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have tried on two computers, one is running IE 7.0 and the other is running IE 6.0. No, the other pages seems normal as far as I know. It is just this page I tlaked about. It's a critical one too. Because if I want to order a product, it is from here it is done (I think, but I don't see this content yet). Geir Posted: 20 Feb 2007 05:27 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geir, I think this is a bug with Internet Explorer. Maximize your window and see if that helps. Posted: 20 Feb 2007 05:27 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No, It was not the maximize/minimize that caused this. At the bottom of some of your pages there is a scroll list. Here, that scroll list showed "German" and "Norway" ( Only "Norway" was correct by the way). Anyway, I changed that scroll list to "English" and "USA". Bang!!! The page I missed was visible again. I think you have a bug in your site. Buy I am happy now as I have just placed my order. Best Regards from Geir Laastad / Rieg | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1502 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Rieg, Wow - way to stick with it! I'm glad you were finally able to order the book. And I'll stick that little experience in my hip pocket in case other folks run into such trouble with ordering as well. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Geir Laastad (rieg) Active Forum User Username: rieg Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Sherry, Yes, I wanted that book, because I have paper manuals of all my synths and I think it is a good idea to make sure that I have paper manuals for all my musical stuff :-) By the way, thanks for your comments in my guestbook at www.soundclick.com/rieg. I am quite new at that site and just saw it :-) Rieg | ||
| Djim Tio Unregistered Guest |
Hello Sherry I am quite new in this forum so I am ignorant of the right procedures. There is a question I like to ask.I purchased Musician Notation a few months ago and I am very satisfied using it. I recently downloaded a "soft synth" to replace the build in soft synth which comes with the soundcard in my PC. But this "new" synth is not detected by Musician and I couldnīt find an ADD button in the set up configuration settings. Is there a way out for dummies like me ? Thanks and regards Djim Tio | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1503 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Djim, Welcome to the forum, and you're doing great I'm glad that you've been enjoying Musician, and congratulations on your new synth! If it is a stand-alone MIDI device, Musician should detect it. Since it's not automatically playing, you may be able to remedy the situation by doing the following: 1. Click on "Setup/MIDI Device configuration" (not the "quick" one) 2. In that menu, click "Port/Select Ports" 3. See if your device is listed in the right-hand panel for "Output ports". If it's there, but not checked, then check it. If your synth is not listed there, there is a distinct possibility that it's a VST plugin, which Notation products don't support just yet. However, there are ways to work around it, and there are others here on the forum who are much better versed in that area than myself (David J, are you listening out there? Or anyone else who has a VSTi setup?) Perhaps if you let us know exactly which synth you're using, someone might have specific experience with it, and can help you out more precisely. Or I can check it out and help you through the steps to get it communicating with Musician. Again, welcome to the forum, and we hope to see you around some more ttfn, Sherry | ||
| David Jacklin (dj) Senior Forum User Username: dj Post Number: 495 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hello, Djim and Sherry: What soft synth are you using, Djim? The synth on your sound card has its own port on the card. Chances are that you'll need a virtual midi port to act as an interface between Musician and your soft synth. If your synth were an external hardware synthesizer (I've got a rack of them beside me, here), it would need a hardware midi port to connect to your computer (and Musician). In the same way, the virtual synth needs a virtual port to connect it. Google for "Maple Midi" and "Hubi's Loop Back". Both are freeware programs that do the job very well. They are installed as drivers in Windows and are accessible to other programs like any port. Let me know how it goes for you and I'll try to talk you through it, if need be. Good luck. David | ||
| Djim Tio (djimtio) Registered Forum User Username: djimtio Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hello,Sherry and David Thanks for your early replies.I am using Windows XP(home edition) with build in Windows Realtek Audio soundcard and also build in Roland canvas sound module.I recently downloaded MIDIG-softsynth,AWAVE-trialb model and considering trying FM8. I am just looking for a good sound to play with my Musician when practising bass playing and have no intention(yet) of tweaking around with knobs and sliders to alter (block,saw tooth or sinus) waves. Meanwhile I will try out your recent suggestions. I am quite happy with your help. Thanks and regards, Djim | ||
| Fred Winterling (harbor1) Senior Forum User Username: harbor1 Post Number: 449 Registered: 4-2005 |
Hello Djim, I thought I would throw my 2 cents into the mix just as a caution. One big thing to consider is that Bill Gates and Microsoft are NOT HAPPY with users playing around with their installed sound cards, especially with the downloaded variety. Unless you replace the Original sound card with a known stable and reliable card ( best if you have computer store where purchased install it for you ), you are inviting trouble. Although the sound gurus will tell you the MS GM Wavetable Soft Synth is horrible, It's not all that bad. If your sound is not good, the cheapest way to go would be to upgrade the computer speakers. I don't believe changing the soft synth is going to accomplish anything and could very well cause drastic problems. Cheers, Fred | ||
| Djim Tio (djimtio) Registered Forum User Username: djimtio Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hello Fred,Sherry and Dave I think that you are quite right about trying to mess around with Bill Gates and I indeed invited a lot of trouble messing around with Maple MIDI.After rebooting my PC I decided to leave things as they were,be happy with what I have ,and start playing my bass guitar again. By the way,Iīm using a pair of Studio Monitors in my audio rig. Maybe I should upgrade my whole set up with some hardware. By the way, any suggestions about a good sound card ?? But here we go again...... I will stop now by thanking you,Sherry and Dave for your excellent help. Kind regards Djim | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1504 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Djim, You said: -------------- I am just looking for a good sound to play with my Musician when practising bass -------------- Cool - another low life ;) I play bass, too (mine's electric), and it's just a ton of fun! Are you using Musician to practice with? I use it for that, and I've learned a ton about bass lines in general because I can see the notes, and either solo the bass track to hear just it, or I can mute the bass track and play along with "the band". Using Composer, I've made a bunch of mp3s for "ear training" to share with my church bass email group. Soon they'll be up for general access at www.churchbass.org if you want some already-converted-to-mp3 format files. They range from one series I made all in the key of "A", but widely varying styles (for finding "the groove"), to some "standards" that I found on the internet (using our MIDI File Directory www.notation.com/MidFiles.php) and recorded with the bass staff muted so I could flail it out, er, I mean, figure it out on my own ;) There are also some "drums only" tracks for woodshedding on fitting a bass line with the drummer. Anyway, it's great to see a fellow bass player here What kinds of music do you play? Gear info is also fun to know And, if you have any websites that you've found that have useful MIDI files, do let us know. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Djim Tio (djimtio) Registered Forum User Username: djimtio Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hello Sherry, What a great co-incidence to meet a fellow bass player in this forum. I will certainly check out your bands website.Actually I am an electric bass player too (Alembic fretted and frettless axes).and being retired now ( used to be a medical specialist)I tried to keep up my "skills" using Musician exactly the same way you are using this fantastic device ( now knowing the difference between ports and devices )for playing and eventually using "easy notes " and transposing to bass cleffs if necessary.When still active I used to play R+B,Pop and Jazzy songs with a "band" (fellow medical colleagues on keyboard,lead and rythm guitar,drums),always trying to produce the "ultimate demo",between gigs,using Mackie master and Crate speakers. Nowadays,being limited to PC,Musician and Studio Monitors,it,s a nice way to keep up listining and making music.I have some websites you might be interrested in,which I will direct to you soon,OK ? Mail you soon Regards Djim | ||
| Djim Tio (djimtio) Registered Forum User Username: djimtio Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hello Sherry I just visited churchbass.org and I am quite anxious to hear your sounds on MP3.Though not a christian according to christian standards (mother Muslim,late father Buddhist,my wife catholic christian)and me having adopted the Buddhistic view of life ,as a bass player I am really interrested in churhbass playing and players,knowing that quite a number of famous bass players have started playing as churchbass players. As you will surely know,music has always been integrated with religion as long as mankind exists and otherwise. I am currently trying to "master" some Bach PRELUDES ( C Maj. G Maj) on my fretless as a start inspired by the cello version of these masterworks. If interrested,please tell me and I will forward the information to you( MIDI /andor Sheet files).Otherwise please state your main interrests and I will try to find it. Regards Djim | ||
| Sherry Crann (sherry) Notation Software Associate Username: sherry Post Number: 1506 Registered: 1-2004 |
Howdy Djim, Wow - not only do we share the same instrument, but similar background - I used to work in medical research, biochemistry of the ear, aminoglycoside ototoxicity to be specific. Your band sounds like it was a lot of fun Alembics are fantastic instruments - I have another "virtual" friend who plays them (fretted and fretless, like you) and he loves them. They are beautiful basses, though I've only seen pictures and heard recordings. I play "home tweaked" Rogue basses, though my fretted is a bit beyond tweaked, as I carved a body for the existing neck, and so it is what is affectionately known as a "Frankenbass" now My fretless is a formerly-fretted viola bass, which I defretted, and then added a piezo pickup to (it already had dual-humbuckers), so it, too, is not really close to original any longer. They're both a lot of fun If you're working on Bach cello pieces, have you visited "Dave's Bach Page", specifically the "cello suites" (http://www.jsbach.net/midi/midi_solo_cello.html)? I haven't come close to mastering these, but they do provide me with a lot of good practice material If you've got some other sites that you've found useful, please do post them. ttfn, Sherry | ||
| Djim Tio (djimtio) Registered Forum User Username: djimtio Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2007 |
Hi Sherry This is obviously not a "installation issue" but I canīt help wondering how a Frankenbass would sound (or do you mean a" Frankenstein bass ??)Your frettless should play easely because of the marks of the fretts you must have left (what did you use to fill the gaps ?),might help with intonation problems.I already knew about Daveīs JS Bach Place. Did you already checked out this site : www.harmony-central.com ? Lots of links and interresting places to go for shaping up our skills. Also you will find churchbass.org mentioned in www.praisevoice.com. This might be keeping you busy for a while. Keep grooving an have fun, Regards Djim |
